There was an unrealesed album called 'Toy' that was supposed to be new versions of old songs. Made in 2001/2002 it got canned but was booted a few years later. It's mainly 'OK'. Heathen & Reality were a lot better though.
("Toy" remains an unofficial, download-only album.) For me, as one of the dinosaurs in the Bowie camp, any re-recording or re-imagining of the classics he chose to rework on "Toy" will be inferior to the originals. Having said that, they are his property, not mine, and even the rejigs always make for an interesting listen.
Thank you @leejohnson I did notice the busted link. I kind of agree regarding 'Toy'. It's one thing to perform old songs but the re-recording so maybe unnessecary.
@adrian4acn "The Man" thinks it necessary, so that's alright with me! But, as with my 'slowburn' interest in his 1974 "Diamond Dogs" album (I totally and completely ignored it at the time because he went and killed off Ziggy!), there's no guarantee I'll fall head over heels with any of his tracks. Having downloaded "Dogs" a few months ago, I am STILL listening/re-listening. It's growing on me gradually!!
Despite not great technical recording the 'David Live' album is also a good listen. Also the BBC Cracked Doc which cover the same period and inside Roeg to cast Bowie in the 'The Man Who Fell To Earth'.
@adrian4acn@Bukowski@leejohnson@twistymellorman@BertrandRustles ...I love the version of this from the stunning album, "Bowie at the Beeb" too. ...I think that the "Sweet thing/Candidate/Sweet thing" sequence on "Diamond Dogs" is Bowie's finest moment. ..There, I've said it now.
We should hire a cafe and talk about this in comfort. So, yes, the "Sweet thing/Candidate/Sweet thing" sequence was, IMO, a watershed for Bowie in a way, as it was very "grown up" and musically mature, a real indication of what was to come rather than the relatively straightforward rock'n'roll of Ziggy and Aladdin Sane. I won't go as far as finest moment, as my favourite Bowie phase began with Station to Station and ended with Scary Monsters, but I can really appreciate why you like it.
Yo @twistymellorman Name the venue, it might be a long night! I would nail my colours to an album and StationToStation and the Berlin Trilogy are also astounding. As is.,,,,,,, (long night defintly)
Don't know if you've heard this version, @adrian4acn, but the last edition of David Live - double CD, remastered by Tony Visconti and re-sequenced to reflect the running order of the DD/PD tour setlist, released about 10 years ago - sounds pretty ace (to these ears, anyway).
@debutch Easy tiger; we know what you mean and for the most part I agree; however, you and I know that as good as 'Diamond Dogs' is it isn't as good as 'Aladdin Sane'. See, now I've said it.
@debutch Bowie is one of only a few artists I cannot make a favourite list for (which will please @adrian4acn); it is impossible to even compare 'Diamond Dogs' with 'Low' for example.
@Bukowski I know what you mean. The chameleon-like changes he constantly made to himself & his music throughout the 70s was mind-boggling. In that one decade alone, he was like 6 or 7 different Artists under one guise.
I'm glad we are all playing nicely @Bukowski & @debutch, noe 'Lets Dance'!! And @stevefawcett I think I have that. My memory is of the original vinyl which I played a lot despite it being a B- bootleg quality.
@adrian4acn HaHaHa!!.......oh, I shouldn't laugh, really. I love @Bukowski 's lists! ....btw, I just got "Heathen" through the post the other day & my first impressions ( early days yet ) are possibly his best post "Scary monsters" album. What do you think?
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twistymellorman
I heard the re-made version on the NHC compilation. What's the story behind it?
adrian4acn
There was an unrealesed album called 'Toy' that was supposed to be new versions of old songs. Made in 2001/2002 it got canned but was booted a few years later. It's mainly 'OK'. Heathen & Reality were a lot better though.
adrian4acn
More here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_(David_Bowie_album)
leejohnson
("Toy" remains an unofficial, download-only album.) For me, as one of the dinosaurs in the Bowie camp, any re-recording or re-imagining of the classics he chose to rework on "Toy" will be inferior to the originals. Having said that, they are his property, not mine, and even the rejigs always make for an interesting listen.
leejohnson
@adrian4acn That link needs to be written http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_%28David_Bowie_album%29 to work!
twistymellorman
Fascinating! Thanks @adrian4acn and @leejohnson... just when I thought I owned everything he recorded as well!
adrian4acn
Thank you @leejohnson I did notice the busted link. I kind of agree regarding 'Toy'. It's one thing to perform old songs but the re-recording so maybe unnessecary.
leejohnson
@adrian4acn "The Man" thinks it necessary, so that's alright with me! But, as with my 'slowburn' interest in his 1974 "Diamond Dogs" album (I totally and completely ignored it at the time because he went and killed off Ziggy!), there's no guarantee I'll fall head over heels with any of his tracks. Having downloaded "Dogs" a few months ago, I am STILL listening/re-listening. It's growing on me gradually!!
adrian4acn
I love 'Diamond Dogs', the Sweet Thing, Candidate, Sweet Thing Reprise section is wonderful.
BertrandRustles
@adrian4acn DD is a stunner of an album.
Bukowski
'Diamond Dogs' is a hugely underrated album.
adrian4acn
Despite not great technical recording the 'David Live' album is also a good listen. Also the BBC Cracked Doc which cover the same period and inside Roeg to cast Bowie in the 'The Man Who Fell To Earth'.
debutch
@adrian4acn @Bukowski @leejohnson @twistymellorman @BertrandRustles ...I love the version of this from the stunning album, "Bowie at the Beeb" too. ...I think that the "Sweet thing/Candidate/Sweet thing" sequence on "Diamond Dogs" is Bowie's finest moment. ..There, I've said it now.
adrian4acn
@debutch The Bowie at the Beeb album is excellent. Might dig that out later.
twistymellorman
We should hire a cafe and talk about this in comfort. So, yes, the "Sweet thing/Candidate/Sweet thing" sequence was, IMO, a watershed for Bowie in a way, as it was very "grown up" and musically mature, a real indication of what was to come rather than the relatively straightforward rock'n'roll of Ziggy and Aladdin Sane. I won't go as far as finest moment, as my favourite Bowie phase began with Station to Station and ended with Scary Monsters, but I can really appreciate why you like it.
adrian4acn
Yo @twistymellorman Name the venue, it might be a long night! I would nail my colours to an album and StationToStation and the Berlin Trilogy are also astounding. As is.,,,,,,, (long night defintly)
stevefawcett
Don't know if you've heard this version, @adrian4acn, but the last edition of David Live - double CD, remastered by Tony Visconti and re-sequenced to reflect the running order of the DD/PD tour setlist, released about 10 years ago - sounds pretty ace (to these ears, anyway).
Bukowski
@debutch Easy tiger; we know what you mean and for the most part I agree; however, you and I know that as good as 'Diamond Dogs' is it isn't as good as 'Aladdin Sane'. See, now I've said it.
debutch
@Bukowski I'm not disagreeing ! :) The 'Sweet thing' sequence , his finest 'moment' and yes , 'Aladdin Sane' , his finest ( most consistent ) album .
debutch
@Bukowski Actually, Bowie has made so many great albums , that just this once , I'll HAVE to say... "in my opinion."
Bukowski
@debutch Bowie is one of only a few artists I cannot make a favourite list for (which will please @adrian4acn); it is impossible to even compare 'Diamond Dogs' with 'Low' for example.
debutch
@Bukowski I know what you mean. The chameleon-like changes he constantly made to himself & his music throughout the 70s was mind-boggling. In that one decade alone, he was like 6 or 7 different Artists under one guise.
adrian4acn
I'm glad we are all playing nicely @Bukowski & @debutch, noe 'Lets Dance'!! And @stevefawcett I think I have that. My memory is of the original vinyl which I played a lot despite it being a B- bootleg quality.
adrian4acn
Someone name a bad Bowie album....
adrian4acn
....and I'm making a list of things @Bukowski can't make a list of. 1: Bowie Albums 2: Scythe Slaying Techniques. 3: .....
debutch
@adrian4acn HaHaHa!!.......oh, I shouldn't laugh, really. I love @Bukowski 's lists! ....btw, I just got "Heathen" through the post the other day & my first impressions ( early days yet ) are possibly his best post "Scary monsters" album. What do you think?
adrian4acn
@debutch I put Hours, Reality & Heathen in the car today. I love them all. Another trilogy of genius.
AnEarful
I also love In The Heat Of The Morning - especially the BBC version.
Bukowski
@adrian4acn A list of the best ways to combat smart arse comments:- 1. Ignore 2. Sarcasm 3. ...