17 Comments (since 23 May 2012)
The only Country singer I can possibly stomach because he transcended the genre in order to reflect his true feelings as opposed to those fake country blues which often proliferate.
@Bukowski Yup, I can't say I'm really a fan of the earlier stuff apart from a few songs. It's just that once you've heard one song, you've heard em all. But his American Recordings really hit home!
@hindle4 I have a (pet) theory that although much American music translates well across the pond there is much that does not. The Allman Brothers, Gram Parsons, Crosby, Stills and Nash (even though one of them was British (Nash?)), a great deal of Springsteen and often Woody Guthrie. I think that this is due to a particular kind of american experience connected to its Cultural Geo-Historical context.
@Bukowski Spot on! I have listened to some of the particular artists sparingly, but never been grabbed by any of it. I suppose why some of our best bands never translate in the same way. The Jam spring to mind. Just too damn British!
@hindle4 The Smiths never really went down that well in 'the new world'. "Oh, our colonial cousins, such fun."
@Bukowski @hindle4 This is an interesting discussion, as on an American music board I frequent, the question was asked about why Allmans, Creedence, etc. aren't mentioned in the same list of all-time greats as the Stones, Beatles, Who, etc. I realize that I'm an outlier, but I have never owned ONE album from the Allmans, CSN&Y, Springsteen or Woody Guthrie. On the other hand I own everything ever recorded by The Smiths and The Jam. H4, you're right that The Jam was never widely popular here, but Bukowski - The Smiths were fairly big here (though not to the extent they were in the U.K. I'm sure) "How Soon Is Now" is as recognizable in America as any Springsteen song amongst my age group. Oh and if you offered me $ 1 Billion I could not name 10 songs by Woody Guthrie, Allmans & CSNY (I'll leave Springsteen out since you can't NOT know his songs here)
I never saw The Smiths as "popular" in the U.S. I think they have more of a cult following here than anything else. I'd also like to add that today, country music has been developing a huge following outside of its regional home. I'm from the Northeastern part of the U.S. and modern country (much to my dismay) is becoming extremely popular here, probably as much as pop and hip-hop. Cash is the closest thing to country that I can stomach, but then again, he's managed to go beyond that label.
@KParkBro I think that us Brits tend to make broad generalisations about Americans.
@Enish Cash is the only country I can stomach too.
@Bukowski I guess we all tend to make broad generalizations about everyone don't we? :)
@Enish I despise 100% of contemporary American country music and I have all of my life. I was born and raised in the deep south and I still live here, so it's all around me every day. I have come to appreciate the country "sound" tremendously and oddly enough it was a Rolling Stones song I learned in the 80's that opened my eyes. (Before They Make Me Run) There are a ton of alt.country (or ya'llternative) bands that I think are great though they don't garner much of a response on this site predictably. Many unbelievable bands have country roots. As far as Johnny Cash, the only song of his that I REALLY like is Folsom Prison Blues.
@Enish The only other comment I'd add about the popularity of the Smiths in the US is that today they have a cult following only without question. When I said that they were big here I said amongst people my age, which is a good bit older than you I'm sure. I went to a large university and in The Smiths heyday, every bar wore every one of their albums out. @hindle4 Sorry for hijacking all of your threads, I'll stop doing this but they do generate some interesting dialogue.
@KParkBro Are you making a broad generalisation about broad generalisations?
@Bukowski Generally, yes.
@KParkBro As a spectrum of agreement, given the scope of the discussion and the wide sweep included here I also agree.
@KParkBro Haha don't worry about it, it's interesting reading about how other people's idea's on music is very much my own...
It's refreshing to hear a song from the Rick Rubin years that ISN'T "Hurt."