Last week I saw them for the fourth time. Didn't like the new album that much, and most songs from it didn't work that well live (except for a few like Graceless, I Should Live in Salt, Don't Swallow the Cap and Sea of Love)... but it doesn't really matter. The show was great. I've been listening to their music for so long and been a fan for so many years that it's all worth it just to listen to some of their best (Terrible Love, Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks, Sorrow, Abel, Afraid of Everyone, Slow Show... they never play enough from Sad Songs, Alligator or Boxer). This one, in particular, sounds amazingly powerful live. It was the third song of their set, the fourth time I was listening to it live, and as soon as they started playing it it just brought tears to my eyes. It was my fourth time seeing them, and I'll probably see them four more.